Boeing 737! MAX is BACK! Re-certification and understanding MCAS! Explained by CAPTAIN JOE
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Dear friends and followers, welcome back to my channel!
In today's video we'll be looking at the famous Boeing 737 MAX. What caused the grounding of this plane? What did Boeing do to get her certified? I'll give you a better understanding of the MCAS system. The easiest explanation on how the system works by using a bicycle! I'll briefly mention the Angle of Attack vane that caused the problems with the MCAS! Is it safe to fly this beautiful airplane again?
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  • Joe Achilles
    Joe Achilles

    Another brilliant video Joe, that last 90 seconds were so powerful and true, respect!

    • Sebastian Floyd
      Sebastian Floyd

      @B yeah 737 MAXs are the worst planes ever and they should be retired

    • David Middleton
      David Middleton

      NEO: Not Eating Octopus

    • Sebastian Floyd
      Sebastian Floyd

      @I Care not safe to me, I’ll never fly on a max if they don’t retire and scrap them

    • I Care
      I Care

      @Sebastian Floyd With the max engine location and my background, until the FAA mandates proper blade off testing as I outlined in my post, from a scientific data testing point of view, I am going to avoid the max at this time as much as humanly possible until the proper blade off, on wing testing is done in current configuration and proven through at least 3 data blade off testing points to be safe. The fuselage damage that just occurred on United fight 328 would have been significant on a Boing 737 Max due to the Max engine location, in my opinion.

    • Sebastian Floyd
      Sebastian Floyd

      @I Care I ain’t gonna fly a max. They should be retired scrapped and never fly again

  • Bing Hyong-bae Bang
    Bing Hyong-bae Bang

    I will never fly on that plane.

  • Dwight Looi
    Dwight Looi

    The Irony is that the 737-Max is PERFECTLY SAFE to fly without MCAS. The pitch up behavior is no worse than with jets like the 757. If the 737-Max was a new airplane the MCAS is a totally unnecessary system; it would be perfectly fine as it was. MCAS was there exclusively to make the 737-Max mimic the flight characteristics of the previous 737-NG family almost exactly. This was important to reduce retraining of the crew from the previous generation to the Max generation and make it more attractive to existing 737 operators.

  • working shlub
    working shlub

    great job of explaining it simply...haste makes waste ...i agree profits over people is unacceptable especially in air travel

  • fede salva
    fede salva

    Well, now we just need voluntaries to travel on it... Anyone?

  • Jabber 1974
    Jabber 1974

    There isn’t enough money in the world to persuade me to get on a 737 max.

  • Muppet Lansing
    Muppet Lansing

    So the Max has now been recertified as safe to fly by the FAA. Anyone else feel reassured by this?

  • Sam O'brien
    Sam O'brien

    9:53 Imagine being 1 of the pilots and this was your view and there was absolutely nothing you could do

  • Michael Tolentino
    Michael Tolentino

    NEO- New Engine Option

  • Ari Cowan
    Ari Cowan

    Spot on. Excellent. Your concluding remarks are especially important.

  • Paul Pugh
    Paul Pugh

    Sick Boeing......employees knew about hidden software but chose to keep quiet,shameful. 737 Max8 is TOXIC as far as i'm concerned,my next trip to Spain is in the car.Whistleblowers in multi national companies should be encouraged,not stiefeld. Lives lost due to their actions will not be forgotten.......👎

  • Niki
    Niki

    Yes!! The ultimate suicidal plane is back!!

  • Wolfgang Falck
    Wolfgang Falck

    Who in his right mind will hop on that?

  • ksmith
    ksmith

    Boeing got greedy and got a well-deserved smackdown.

  • Carter Morgan Ayres
    Carter Morgan Ayres

    If there is one industry I trust to design, test, build and operate airliners with Passenger Safety as Priority One--it is companies exemplified by Boeing, and the dedication of Airline Crews flying with the major airlines. If exemplary airline crews and accident investigators like Captains Sullenberger & Skiles may be encouraged to regularly contribute their leadership and experience to corporate decision-making from this point, airplane orders may increase, and public trust in an historically trustworthy industry will return.

  • Kashiff Collins
    Kashiff Collins

    New Engine Option (NEO)

  • Orbital Potato
    Orbital Potato

    Too bad the companies will not be held accountable.

  • Gerardo Salas
    Gerardo Salas

    The flying coffin

  • T K
    T K

    No no no...the saddest part of this whole mess is the lives lost and families dealing with the sorrow... they better be compensated well! Fuck Boeing! as far as I'm concerned the CEO should be on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness from the families basically his life should be theirs to do as they please...

  • Phil Williams
    Phil Williams

    Great video Captain Joe.... brilliant final section.

  • Adip Bancharam
    Adip Bancharam

    Last comment goes to mentourpilot 🤔

  • Adip Bancharam
    Adip Bancharam

    New engine option

  • Anirudh
    Anirudh

    13:20 Absolutely. Screw boeing. This is sickening.

  • mrz80
    mrz80

    You didn't mention - did Boeing add a redundant AoA sensor and input to the MCAS, along with some way to alert the flight deck about a sensor disagreement if it occurred? And I wonder if maybe Boeing ought to take a good hard look at what's become of their corporate culture and move the corporate offices back to Seattle, where the hands-dirty people can have better access and input to the pencil-pushers?

    • Kalle K
      Kalle K

      They reprogrammed MCAS to take inputs from both AoA sensors at all times. No sensor was added, the 737 MAX (all 737s in fact) has always had two. The bug causing the AoA Disagreement alert not to be displayed has also been taken care of, it's working again on all 737 MAXes just like it did on the NG.

  • Tim Wall
    Tim Wall

    Well said Captain Joe. I've come across that greed in other areas of manufacturing. I refused to drive one vehicle bc. the brakes were not safe. The owner just found someone else to drive, instead of having the brakes bled out, which wouldn't have taken all that long.

  • chris benson m
    chris benson m

    So what will boeing do with the 9ld engine ?. Throw it?

  • James White
    James White

    Airbus had a similar incident with Qantas 72. Faulty AOA data got fed to the flight computer, the Airbus automation commanded a 10 degrees pitch down multiple times despite the flight characteristics being fine and not need any of the protection modes. AFSB findings led to Airbus modifying their software to prevent bad AOA data causing an event like that again, but the cause of the AOA data being bad in the first place was never found. Scary sometimes, no matter how sophisticated the software automation is now, there's always an edge case somewhere. Granted MCAS on 737 MAX had many more factors and deception and corporate greed is right up there. RIP to those who were victims of Boeing's failures.

  • Broler The Aviation Master
    Broler The Aviation Master

    NEO = New Engine Option

  • AnimeSunglasses
    AnimeSunglasses

    It's doesn't make me sad... It makes me angry. Boeing had always been known for building planes with superior pilot feedback and flyability. They sold a product that undermined that, AND DIDN'T TELL ANYONE, just to make a profit faster. I'm sure the CEO and his team will at BEST get Golden Parachutes, but they DESERVE a sentence of a decade of community service on minimum wage.

  • Concorde Heavy
    Concorde Heavy

    Time will prove the safety, and passengers on this aircraft having in mind the mcas that cause the crushes, they will be relaxed after landing.Many passengers that like flying they scare to fly on max what about passengers that are nervous on any kind of flight.

  • harshit shah
    harshit shah

    I will only fly in it whn Regulators other than the faa certify it independently

  • C B
    C B

    Great video The Ralph Nader connection/story is sad and incredible.

  • Speed of light
    Speed of light

    Thank you first officer Joe before that if you ever become Captain. impersonating someone else at higher ranks unless you are comedian is criminal offence. BTW you are young smart handsome should also become American or at least Canadian Australian fatherland pilot.

  • Rexx
    Rexx

    I'll wait a year before getting on one. If nothing happens then I'll give it a go.

  • Colin Wallace
    Colin Wallace

    One wonders how test pilots missed this. One also wonders how the systems on the plane didn’t sound the alarm on sensor values that would obviously conflict with actual operating parameters. Also, given the A320’s well known propensity for presenting pilots with confusing data that required them to recalculate or override something, wouldn’t pilots be reporting such things as having to manually trim a computer-controlled aircraft? Not laying blame, just wondering.

  • BirdEyePT
    BirdEyePT

    Non the less, you will never catch me on one of those.

  • William Edward
    William Edward

    The brash blizzard analogically repeat because justice electronically worry following a workable hamster. rhetorical, apathetic epoxy

  • Just Noted
    Just Noted

    The Max still sports the dubious air-vanes

  • Артур Сидоран
    Артур Сидоран

    MCAS: May crash any second

  • Michael Morris
    Michael Morris

    I'll never get on one of these planes. Using software compensate for bad design is rediculous.

  • H4hT53
    H4hT53

    What was most poignant about this whole affair (at least to me) was that at the same time shitty electronics and even shittier programming caused so much deaths in the MAX, Boeing *also* fucked up their code and electronics on their Starliner test flight. I really hope that heads did roll in their management for those fuck-ups and, more importantly, that they - and all their competitors! - learn from it.

  • jonas duell
    jonas duell

    Since airbus can deliver a better and safer alternative, why even bother flying in a 737max.

    • Greg
      Greg

      Airbus is pumping them out as fast as they can but if you go buy an A320 you'll still be in a waiting list. Also If your already in line for the 737 and your tooled up for the 737 line up it's quicker and less expensive to stay with the 737 platform

  • Lolz
    Lolz

    Why didnt the pilots just disable the entire MCAS system when they realized it was malfunctioning? wasnt that an option of the boeing??? did they not know how to operate the features of the aircraft???

    • Stop Telling Me What To Write
      Stop Telling Me What To Write

      Was not a defeatable system -"computer knows best"... Boeing purposely skipped mcas training because that would indicate major system change and therefore requiring a lengthy recertification (and times is $$$); gamble ended up costing more time and $$$ though...and bunch of dead people.

  • cesar quintana
    cesar quintana

    NEO stands for. NOT Economically Operated. Lol.

  • cesar quintana
    cesar quintana

    Captain, that is the best explanation I have seen so far. The greed this CEOS and executives take, knowing you have a great product. You said it perfect ly in aviation NEVER rush anything. Thank you for your education. Happy and safe flying.

    • Lolz
      Lolz

      True, but pilots need to know how to operate the aircraft they are flying and its features... as the video showed 2 switches would of solved the issue they were battling with

  • Salty Reviews
    Salty Reviews

    Funny how a company cripples itself to save some money. Never getting on those planes.

  • Nico Meier
    Nico Meier

    The first iteration of this plane should never have been certified in the first place. Inherent problems due to fitting very large engines, too high on the wing on a plane not designed for them. . Hundreds of people died because of it but no criminal repercussions to anybody of the Boeing management. Corporate greed should not be rewarded, it should be punished.

  • Northeast Regional Productions
    Northeast Regional Productions

    When you usually only fly southwest and southwest is at the top of the "737 MAX bought" list

    • Stop Telling Me What To Write
      Stop Telling Me What To Write

      RIP

  • Daft Vader
    Daft Vader

    Even now after almost two years there is an incomplete fix.The MAX should have three Angle of Attack sensors . Two forming a reference base for a potentially damaged third. An incomplete system that has demonstrated it is a Catastrophic System. This is an official designation of a system that has the potential to kill all on board. Such a system should have maximum redundancy. This was completely ignored on initial certification. Totally illegal!!! Boeing are still handling control of the aircraft biggest control surface to an ancient single channel low powered computer with a sensor imput that could have much better redundancy.

  • michael fujiwara
    michael fujiwara

    Agree. His last 90secs is awesome. Despicable - Profits over Safety.

  • Christopher Petit
    Christopher Petit

    Apparently whoever made those key decisions forgot that, if enough people start to perceive airlines as less safe, it will dramatically impact how many people fly. It doesn't even require the safety to, objectively, be anywhere near as unsafe as driving a car. It is all about perception. While 346 people died in these 2 crashes, 3,400 people die from car crashes EVERY SINGLE DAY. So, statistically, we would need a lot of airplane crashes to equal the amount of deaths we see from cars. But, perception drives people's behavior, not objective statistics.

  • Anthony Verghese
    Anthony Verghese

    a video onexplaining the number of planes eg 737,777,747 what do they mean?

  • Anthony Verghese
    Anthony Verghese

    why are boeing planes ,labelled .737.747,777 etc, please explain .thankyou

  • Main Account
    Main Account

    The piquant turret baly deliver because throat cytogenetically beg onto a noiseless banker. fluffy, distinct veterinarian

  • BrandEver
    BrandEver

    8:00 *TOO

  • a s
    a s

    Speaking on behalf of all 737 pilots across the globe, as a B737-800 captain myself, I can for sure say that we all feel terribly cheated. And Boeing is yet to instill its confidence back in us; which I don't feel it truly ever will.

  • IamAcat
    IamAcat

    Neo New Engine Option (but dont take me seriously because i have an anime pfp)

  • kam1nokage
    kam1nokage

    Great video, but it is sad to see when greed wins. Boeing was a company of talented engineers, but became a company of "efective managers" who only care about their bonuses. The problem is that Boeing is an important company for US economy as well as military, so they still got away with "murder". Somebody has to be held accountable for these deaths. People involved had go to jail and the company had to be restructured so it won't happen again...

  • Michael Afubwa
    Michael Afubwa

    Can’t trust Boeing or that FAA. I wouldn’t want to fly those coffins.

  • web Surfin
    web Surfin

    I'll never trust flying on one of those DEATH-TRAPS!

  • mario scandeli
    mario scandeli

    two planes crashed and killed a lot people, this model should be banned forever

  • Jim Mooney
    Jim Mooney

    Ford: "Our new car jerks to the right all the time but we'll save money by not fixing the mechanical problem. Instead, we'll use a "software" fix. Maybe a computer will tell a little arm to come out and push the steering wheel right. What a moneysaver!" Boeing moved their Seattle headquarters, formerly run by engineers, to Chicago, where it was run by bean counters. Except they didn't have so many beans to count. Still, a lot of people don't know they're the second biggest military contractor, and we'll be getting in another war soon enough.

  • nissanv8FTW
    nissanv8FTW

    I'll never fly on boeing hardware again. I flew 3 times last year and didn't step foot on one.

  • FichDich InDemArsch
    FichDich InDemArsch

    Well, those deaths don't count for 'Murricans because, you know, some non-White non-American people died. Shame on the U.S, and shame on Americans.

  • Master P
    Master P

    Is captain Joe taking shots at mentour pilot 👀

  • FichDich InDemArsch
    FichDich InDemArsch

    If it's Boeing, then you're surely dying!

  • Rwoarrr
    Rwoarrr

    Boeing has been dealing with a ton of Corporate greed in recent and has allowed there construction of aircrafts to become worse and worse

  • Marlinspike
    Marlinspike

    Boeing software was also bad in its space program. Terrible company.

  • Henrik
    Henrik

    MCAS: May crash any second

  • ArrrGee
    ArrrGee

    NEO - New Engine Option, or in other words making more money than Boeing!

  • MAX SpezialbauAG
    MAX SpezialbauAG

    NEO= New Engine Option

  • Colby Picton
    Colby Picton

    Sounds like bad engineering which will in turn cause more wear and tear on the elevators... More service time, more costs associated to keep the planes in the fleet

  • asiri weerasooriya
    asiri weerasooriya

    Brilliant .....

  • Brian John Hawkeswood
    Brian John Hawkeswood

    Before you book check to see if your aircraft is a Max. If it is, choose an airline that has another aircraft. The Max is basically the same aircraft.

  • Stephen Page-Murray
    Stephen Page-Murray

    Ex Air Force and I won’t be flying in one. The A320 will do me just fine..

  • Chavdar Naidenov
    Chavdar Naidenov

    I'm amazed they've hunkered down and are really going to try to ram the MAX down the throat of passenger air-travel. No one has been punished, there's no official explanation, how greed was been allowed to eat thus deeply into basic safety rules, the company has not been taken over by a public authority, the corruption at the FAA has not been cleaned out. And they expect advertisement and propaganda to restore the trust of the public and the airmen. Until the next mass slaughter.

  • BAANi Barnes
    BAANi Barnes

    Surely the problem is not the software, the problem is that Boeing are trying to fit an incompatible engine to an old and out-dated airframe? If I was a pilot, I would refuse to fly an aircraft that relied on software to fly it 'safely' because the engine/airframe combination was incompatible! Boeing are nothing short of criminal and cavalier in their approach to aircraft design!!!

  • SEMA james LLLKkaniaru
    SEMA james LLLKkaniaru

    The abnormal interactive greely move because drop logistically pray without a cloudy policeman. terrible, ceaseless nancy

  • zombieregime
    zombieregime

    If only they didnt add yet another disconnect between the pilot and the plane those two planes wouldn't have crashed. Maybe, oh i dont know....trust pilots to be pilots? Otherwise might as well just have google fly all our planes now....

  • Chien Chunng Tsaur
    Chien Chunng Tsaur

    Killer is back

  • emmanuel omadi
    emmanuel omadi

    These Boeing guys are shameless,how they clear max 8 planes yet fetality case are still in court ,r.i.p all Ethiopian airline victims and esp anty christine

  • NaiLsByJasMinE
    NaiLsByJasMinE

    People and airlines should not fly these again what Boeing did was unforgivable in my oppinion and I’ll never ride a Boeing again

  • Joe
    Joe

    10:48 Damn... you could've just hit 2 switches and turned the damn thing off? I imagine every 737 pilot is WELL aware of this now, so if push comes to shove they can turn it off.

    • Lolz
      Lolz

      ya they could have in both cases they were tossed around for quite a while before crashing aka if they had done the research to knowing how to operate the plane.... they could of fixed the issue in seconds.

    • Ferney
      Ferney

      but they need to be quick! MCAS can spin those trim wheels so far so fast that getting the trim back to sanity manually is very heavy & sustained work against the airflow....

  • Operator 801
    Operator 801

    Haha, how many people do you need to kill before they'll let you fail?

  • Andrew Simone
    Andrew Simone

    Corporate greed keeps me up at night thinking how my kids will be affected in the future seeing how easy a giant like Boing can get around this disgusting tragedy.

  • Hell
    Hell

    Fuck Boeing. They created an aircraft that when malfunctioned essentially executes a kamikaze. Seemingly they decided to not train pilots on how to detect and override this system simply to save money which then resulted in hundreds of people loosing their lives. Lives that seemingly had no reason to die early other than corporate greed.

  • Richard Hussey
    Richard Hussey

    Can’t believe there isn’t a better sensor. The thing is basically a weather vane bolted to the outside of the plane in all weather conditions. Seems some pilots knew about this system and some didn’t particularly in the third world. 🤔

  • SALZOPYRIN
    SALZOPYRIN

    Personally, I wouldn't fly in one, to many deaths..737 MAX.....MCAS = Might Crash Aircraft Suddenly.

  • Stand Alone
    Stand Alone

    The hell with that plane!

  • OneHairyGuy
    OneHairyGuy

    Excellent video Joe !! The engineering staff from NASA must have made its way into our airline industry !! Profit before safety !!

  • ZeroOneInfinity
    ZeroOneInfinity

    Fixed or not, I don't think I'd be getting in a MAX any time soon... I'd go as far as to pay for a completely separate flight before getting on one of those deathtraps.

  • RMD 420
    RMD 420

    What a great video Joe, thank you so much!!! 'Keep the blue side up' A pilot saying. Can anyone guess it's meaning? Leave a comment bellow. Thanks.

  • RMD 420
    RMD 420

    NEO: New Engine Option. It refers to the engines. Bigger and more efficient

  • Sean Hollingsworth
    Sean Hollingsworth

    Only the early 737-100/200's had the engines mounted under the wings. Starting with the 737-300, the engines have all been mounted foward of the wings.

  • simon van Rijs
    simon van Rijs

    The upshot is that Boeing has an aeroplane that doesn't fly properly because its made too many changes without fully redesigning it. Instability is desired for fighter but not for anything carrying people from one place to another. New certification of a non inherently good aircraft doesn't mean a good path for Boeing.

  • James Geiger
    James Geiger

    The various plaster uncommonly hammer because hour legally worry of a sneaky deal. adorable, abnormal grip

  • Talica Tinai
    Talica Tinai

    I won't use this flying coffin ever again . The discomfort alone will kill you .

  • pierre jean
    pierre jean

    after those deaths at least the director of FAA, the director of EASA, the CEO of Boeing, the cheaf security of Boeing should had to step aside, but none of this happened

  • Ali Abdallah
    Ali Abdallah

    I stg if they start falling again I'm gonna. Well I'm not going to do anything but I'll be super upset.

  • pierre jean
    pierre jean

    13:30 wat makes ME more sad is that 346 souls had gone because of a group of millonaires wanted to make more money without thinking in the fatal consecuences

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