Here’s Why PS5 Joysticks Drift (and Why They’ll Only Get Worse)
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Mere months have passed since the PS5’s hotly anticipated launch, and already there’s a class-action lawsuit brewing over joystick drift on Sony’s high-tech DualSense controllers. Who could have seen this coming? Well, as it turns out, everyone. Everyone should have seen this coming. Because for all its exciting new tech, the DualSense uses off-the-shelf joystick hardware with a long history of predictable, preventable issues. And now we’ve investigated those issues in excruciating detail.
Sony isn’t the only company to use off-the-shelf joystick modules, but, like Microsoft, they’ve made it difficult to repair this consumable component. Joysticks have a known life expectancy-it’s listed right in a product sheet from the manufacturer. In this video, we head back inside a DualSense controller to see what is failing, and how.
You can read more about joystick drift in our blog post on iFixit.com:
www.ifixit.com/News/48944/heres-why-ps5-joysticks-drift-and-why-theyll-only-get-worse
Links to other videos we reference in this video:
XQGaming: How to Repair Xbox One Analog Stick Input
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My Mate VINCE: Xbox One Controller - Trying different ways to FIX Stick Drift
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SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - Fix Stick Drift & More
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SOSS GAMING: How to Replace Xbox One Controller Analog Joystick - NEW METHOD [...]
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CYBER DIVER: 【SCUF/PS4コントローラー】【修理/分解】 勝手に動くスティックを新品に交換して修理する方法
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  • iFixit
    iFixit

    A few notes: We started this investigation due to reports of PS5 DualSense controllers drifting, but as we mention at 0:58, these findings apply to most modern joysticks! 3:14 that carbon pad has been scratched with a dental pick. The actual wear to the pads will look different, this was a demonstration since we didn't have a drifting DualSense. 3:50 sprinkling goldfish crackers into your joystick will not fix drift. Don't try this at home. Don't miss Margot the puppy desperately trying to eat Cheez-Its at 5:47

    • Joseph Paul Duffey
      Joseph Paul Duffey

      @Wiredshadow Unfortunately, those were a total failure. I was so hyped and then the sticks, set after set, broke within weeks. Then, apparently, the backplate was scratched/damaged. The construction is clearly too loose. This is a known issue with endless calls for recall and refunds. I think they got Battle Beaver to assist with better construction as people were having to order their modules anyway. I finally gave up and the thing has been collecting dust for six months.

    • DF 118
      DF 118

      @Wiredshadow.. alternately, they could just build something correctly 😉

    • Wiredshadow
      Wiredshadow

      Replaceable modules would fix this problem Astro does this with their controller.

    • Ronoc Leon
      Ronoc Leon

      i honestly haven't experienced any drift on anaything except 1 switch joycon that was treated ruffly for 3 years

    • DF 118
      DF 118

      The reason the sensor module fails is because the graphite track & the wiper are made of two different materials, one being softer than the other .. over time the denser of the two materials (wiper) will erode the less dense material (graphite track) through friction .. the issue here is at manufacturing level and could be rectified by swapping out the graphite strip for a fine layer of the same metal used to produce the wiper (copper alloy?) life span could be enhanced & latency could also be greatly reduced if these components were gold plated .. I mailed Sony about this over a year ago but received no response. If I had the financial backing I would have had custom sensor modules manufactured that could be swapped out on the mainboard ... alas! :/

  • What Ever
    What Ever

    You've gotta be f**king kidding me.

  • Okydoky
    Okydoky

    I never have drift on ps5 only ps4 and

  • Vincent Magallon
    Vincent Magallon

    Typical big corporations. Once they got your money they could care less about supporting you. And will offer the minimum at most.

  • Grimley's Casual Gaming
    Grimley's Casual Gaming

    I have owned every PlayStation console to date and only the original Xbox, but when it comes to gamepads - boy oh boy, did Xbox prove superior. I have been using Xbox One gamepad on PC for over 5 years on an almost daily basis, and I haven't had the slightest of an issue ever. If I could use it on the PS5 (lol) I'd just do it and forget everything about any dual shock and (non)sense. PS1 gamepads were kinda okay, PS2 so and so, PS3 drifted like a pro, PS4 like it tried to surpass it, and now PS5 to rule them all... I expect the PS6 to have day one drifting issues at this rate. It is absolutely insane.

  • leelogan ._.
    leelogan ._.

    That’s funny because my ps3 controller is working better then my brand new ass dualsense. Things have really gone downhill huh?

  • Raakin Awan
    Raakin Awan

    Is this in the ps4 controller aswell??

  • Alfredo Elizondo
    Alfredo Elizondo

    I have 2 controllers for 5 months now and haven´t had that issue.

  • David
    David

    A have a question: in the beginning, you mentioned that the joysticks are essentially the same as the ps4 and xbox controllers. So why is it that the ps5 joystick drifts more than them?

  • Yusuke Urameshi
    Yusuke Urameshi

    I've been through 4 ps4 controllers. The joysticks are so bad. They need to make them better. It's sad that a 3rd party controller has the potential to be better.

  • Y Qisq
    Y Qisq

    They probably don't intend to fix it... for profit.

  • 24 Burnaa
    24 Burnaa

    I remember I would have the same ps3 controller for years with no issue like this. It’s been since January I’ve had the ps5 and it’s already drifting

  • Amirhosein Herandy
    Amirhosein Herandy

    Why wouldn't they just add a calibration tool in the os?

  • Sgt Nooodle
    Sgt Nooodle

    I WONDER IF YOU KNOW HOW THEY LIVE IN TOKYO

  • Victor W.
    Victor W.

    Have had my PS5 since launch, my controller is still absolutely fine!

  • Jester Xeno
    Jester Xeno

    My ps4 controller has been abused and used since the first day of the ps4s release and it still work perfectly. I bought a second controller thinking that at some point the one that came with the box would break but ow boy how wrong I was. I now have a red ps4 controller in perfect condition that has never been used.

  • RUSapache
    RUSapache

    Wait, if Microsoft and Sony use same potentiometers in controllers, why it is only issue on PS5 but not on Xbox?

  • What This Video - WTv
    What This Video - WTv

    Solutions: 1. Fix it 2. Replace it 3. Buy new Just forget about 2 and 3 during these times. Only one is 1.

  • Pedro Gabriel Haddad
    Pedro Gabriel Haddad

    This still doesn't explain why drift wasn't nearly as much of a problem before if it's basically the same technology

  • HeroVax
    HeroVax

    My dualsense left stick started drifting.

  • Zhedny Tenio
    Zhedny Tenio

    Nag te tech tips na pala si ed caluag ngayun hahahaha

  • Raqtor96
    Raqtor96

    Does not explain why PS5 controller drifts/jitters after a few months and PS4 controllers never ever fails after 7+ years of constant use.

  • Sweet List
    Sweet List

    I bought my ps4 controller online for $13 and using it for 2 years with no issue 😆😆

  • Mike W
    Mike W

    Why don't they start making them with hall effect sensors?

  • Cheems Burger
    Cheems Burger

    Dang i had my ps4 pro controller which took a year and a half to get drift and you telling me ps5 controller on takes a month of playtime to get drift?!

  • Arvid Olson
    Arvid Olson

    But this doesn’t explain why there are more reports if dualsense drifting than the other controllers using the same sticks?

  • Ben Wise
    Ben Wise

    If the PS5 controller has the same components as the PS4 version why didn't the PS4 controller suffer from stick drift?

  • Lewis Ride
    Lewis Ride

    Well... got the issue after 2-3 months from buying. Already sent it to Sony...

  • Smõl PeePee
    Smõl PeePee

    The equivalent of the health industry saying they can fix your issue but only if you buy and use their pill for the rest of your life

  • BoatLoadOfSeamen
    BoatLoadOfSeamen

    Issues like this were almost unheard of 15-20+ years ago with the PS1 and PS2. Those controllers had incredibly durable and smooth analog sticks.

  • - james
    - james

    My PS4 controller drifts and I’ve only had it a couple years :(

  • Adrian
    Adrian

    They just need a calibration software. The offset will change. It will never be on the same position

  • Alex
    Alex

    Useful thank you

  • Cheers
    Cheers

    This sounds like The Lightbulb Conspiracy, it can be fixed. But why would they, it a profitable flaw.

  • Morzan the God
    Morzan the God

    They just want you to buy another controller. It's so obvious and it passes me off.

  • Draxic
    Draxic

    i would just replace the stick thing with one that works for over 10 years like the ps3 one!

  • Toast Fairy
    Toast Fairy

    Okay so theres 2 ways we could fix this: 1: we make controllers more expensive, but drastically improve the joystick quality 2: we keep the price the same but we make it to where joysticks can be easily replaceable and sell replacment joysticks (though this might lead to scalping).

  • Galactic Donut
    Galactic Donut

    I probably have a few thousand hours on my ps4 controller, and luckily I haven’t experienced stick drift. Then I bought a second controller, and within 2 days of light use, it had stuck drift. Too bad I couldn’t call customer service because during this time it was down due to covid. I’m hoping I don’t need to go through the same bs with the ps5

  • ThePThunter
    ThePThunter

    I feel this is the perfect opportunity for 3D printer nerds to work their magic and make money.

  • FreddyMasterRace
    FreddyMasterRace

    What worries me is that it's only a matter of time before the market is flooded with knockoffs. There will be a time when all real dualsense controllers will malfunction and force us into buying either fake ones or very expensive authentic ones. IDK about US and Canada, but here in Latin America is a very common problem, I can't buy an authentic Dualshock 4 controller because they cost more than a Duelsense.

  • Trickster 2059
    Trickster 2059

    How about a FKIN company releases a product that won't break less than a month after release

  • Jordan Mossong
    Jordan Mossong

    Bruh this some bullshit, my controller drifting up and I just got it a week ago

  • Dan L
    Dan L

    In other words, Sony, Nintendo and M$ just want you to buy new controllers often.

  • Psych 336
    Psych 336

    It’s funny how 25 year old ps1 controllers work just fine.

  • αηÐяєι 2nd
    αηÐяєι 2nd

    We will truly experience the future if theres a controller with hot swappable joystick

  • Optimist Prime
    Optimist Prime

    Controllers aren't built to last on purpose, companies make most of their profits from accessories these days. A console cycle lasts maybe 7-10 years, during which you'll need 1-2 replacement controllers a year. That's easily twice the console price in total.

  • David Luz
    David Luz

    My controller has the weirdest problem it goes forward when I press L2 wtf kinda drift is that

  • David Reynolds
    David Reynolds

    Meanwhile I’m still using my first Xbox 1 controller, and wireless ps2 controller from 15 years ago, y’all play too much lol

  • Veilyz
    Veilyz

    Mine just started doing this, not surprised to be honest. Ps4s were just as bad

  • p0_0kie
    p0_0kie

    So moral of the story is buy a goddam pc

  • Sara.C
    Sara.C

    Are iFixit staff electrical engineers?

  • Joshua Goodwin
    Joshua Goodwin

    i love how everybody thought that ps5 would destroy the competition but xbox is slowly gaining ground and becoming better

  • David Perry
    David Perry

    Best way to improve the design of a controller is digital sticks which are like analog sticks but with optical encoders instead of a potentiometers

  • R A
    R A

    Mouse for life!

  • Unknown
    Unknown

    I never had a problem with the ps5. Used mine every single day since launch for multiple hours per use.

  • The Anti Tryhard
    The Anti Tryhard

    Only 400 hours? I have played 7000 hours GTA Online with only one Controller 🤣🤣☝️

  • Charlie Roberts
    Charlie Roberts

    What is difting?!??

  • Pepe Laugh
    Pepe Laugh

    While my Xbox 360 controller from 2008 is still perfect. What a joke...

  • G Propho Loading
    G Propho Loading

    Brought a new PS5 joystick a week ago & now its drifting like the one that came with the system.. im upset

    • BIGTICKET
      BIGTICKET

      Get it replaced my brother for free just contact Sony through phone. Talk to them about it

  • CT Gaming
    CT Gaming

    Why? Because the Pony Fans will make excuses for the company and keep buying new ones. Good luck.

  • K B
    K B

    Oh god they’re using potentiometers ? The never ending nightmare, it just seems to follow me... Does anyone had to work in university labs with bad potentiometers ? It hurts. It fcking hurts a lot.

  • Dimitriuchiha
    Dimitriuchiha

    I got one and I haven’t had a problem with mine at all

  • Gianuario Capece
    Gianuario Capece

    just buy a non sony/nintendo joystick, there are plenty of unofficial controller that don't have this problem , if they won't do anything to fix this problem then just buy another controller that's not made by them

  • alpha LP. !!!!!
    alpha LP. !!!!!

    Weird i dont have joystick drift on the nintendo switch but i do have it on the ps4 so for me this is purely a sony problem but i dont always have drift i just have it sometimes after i use the stick so its not a constant Problem which confuses me because whats the problem that is sometimes there and sometimes not

  • homegrowntwinkie
    homegrowntwinkie

    Well, the PS5 controllers are now drifting? Who could've seen this coming - No one. Because no one owns one, that's who.

  • RiceWithRamen
    RiceWithRamen

    I still have my ps4 controller and my ps4 slim I got when it first released and I use that controller for all my gaming, ps4, pc, etc. Point is it's had plenty of years of wear and tare and it still holds up great no drift or anything. You're telling me ps5 controllers (which are now $70) have been experiencing this? Even brand new ones? That's completely unacceptable especially for it being "next gen", which at best their power meets some mid range pcs. Jesus hope they fix it by the time ps5s become widely available.

  • Chaz Bennett
    Chaz Bennett

    What I don't get is that I have never heard of joysticks drifting on consoles that have the joystick built into the thing itself like a psp, do they not use pots for them and instead something else or am I looking to far into this

  • I don't know what to call my channel
    I don't know what to call my channel

    My ps4 started to drift so I just took it apart and removed the metal disc thing behind the green thing I messed up and bent it managed to bend it back to the correct shape put it back together and never tried again. Haven't had any drift now tho

  • begolly awm
    begolly awm

    Any suggestiins on a ps5 compatable controller?

  • DoomOfConviction
    DoomOfConviction

    You can also try to uns Mouse and Keyboard on your PC and laugh about console gamers and company’s milking them!

  • Julien D
    Julien D

    My question, why not buy a new one?

  • XShelledBrushxX
    XShelledBrushxX

    and this is way you were better off coping the series x

  • VGames 1
    VGames 1

    I have this issue with my XBOX ONE controller, so I am barely using the console. Such a terrible production failure.

  • dvuemedia
    dvuemedia

    I'm thinking that is some kind of electronic problem, or maybe heat? I took a drifting wired Switch controller from Switch and connected to PC and it's working fine. Then back to Switch, and it works fine too, then after some time drifts again. Never had PS2/PS3 analog drift, unless the joystick was physically defective.

  • RobFut 99
    RobFut 99

    The rubber tearing off the PS5’s analog sticks is the biggest annoyance

  • Infernal watermelon
    Infernal watermelon

    “Man... Freaking Joy Con drift... At least my new PS5 won’t give me any problems.”

  • A Fabulous Skylanders Spyro
    A Fabulous Skylanders Spyro

    PS4 Owners: Trouble in paradise, hmmmm? 👁👄👁

  • The Jersey Ninja
    The Jersey Ninja

    I’ve literally only ever had this issue on 2 PS3 controllers. And that was because my friend threw one hard against the floor one time, and I didn’t the same to the other one a different time. I’ve never had an issue with joysticks on any other controllers. The only other issue I had was on my first ps4 controller the rubber grip at the top of the stick wore down a bit. And my 360 joysticks completely broke on both controllers. Never had an issue with the activation or centering or anything on any controller just from normal use. And I play quite a lot so it’s not like they don’t get used.

  • Evan Shumaker
    Evan Shumaker

    Lmao their drift is worse than joycons. And it isnt even fixable

  • VocalCalibration
    VocalCalibration

    Dreamcast used hall effect censors for both analog sticks on it's controllers. . . . . . . . . I'm repeating the other comment because it's replies are hellish atm.

  • VocalCalibration
    VocalCalibration

    I'm so glad companies like Sony and Nintendo take the quality of their product so seriously. Truly respectable.

  • J.T. 25
    J.T. 25

    I have yet to have an issue with my ps4 and ps5 controllers having any drift, I have used both for well over 1,000 hours of gameplay, I wish the same luck for others. Great vid!

  • Fion 3
    Fion 3

    First world problems am I right

  • Death.ツ
    Death.ツ

    This is why I play KBM

  • Megan
    Megan

    I have two controllers and when one starts drifting I grab the other one than when that one starts to drift I get the other one and it's just fine

  • Mark Hinman
    Mark Hinman

    Screw this, I’m gonna go back to first gen consoles.

  • NNIF
    NNIF

    On my Ps4 I have the same problem

  • Naeem Merchant
    Naeem Merchant

    imagine him being ur uncle and being able to fix ur controller lmao

  • Big OOf
    Big OOf

    I have an Xbox series x why am I watching this

  • Big Smoke
    Big Smoke

    Me with my PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PS5 Controller all without Stick drift

  • Zunny
    Zunny

    Boy does this sound familiar

  • NS Gaming
    NS Gaming

    Hall effect joysticks could fix it partially.

  • DF 118
    DF 118

    The reason the sensor module fails is because the graphite track & the wiper are made of two different materials, one being softer than the other .. over time the denser of the two materials (wiper) will erode the less dense material (graphite track) through friction .. the issue here is at manufacturing level and could be rectified by swapping out the graphite strip for a fine layer of the same metal used to produce the wiper (copper alloy?) life span could be enhanced & latency could also be greatly reduced if these components were gold plated .. I mailed Sony about this over a year ago but received no response. If I had the financial backing I would have had custom sensor modules manufactured that could be swapped out on the mainboard ... alas! :/

  • RubbishFPS
    RubbishFPS

    STOP USING CONTROLLERS AND GROW UP! Problem solved.

  • Demon X
    Demon X

    PS5 is not worth buying

  • Thecaptain0250
    Thecaptain0250

    Imagine buying a broken ps5 instead of the masterpiece that is a series X

  • Tee F
    Tee F

    Incredibly knowledgable video! If I took a controller apart like that, this would go: "And as you can see, I've broken it.."

  • paul clark
    paul clark

    Why fix something when you can get repeat sales of new controllers that are increasing in price yearly. Much more profit in peripherals than consoles.

  • Tobi From Cactus Jack
    Tobi From Cactus Jack

    I was so careful with my first ps5 controller that when it had controller drift I thought I put it down on the table too gently

  • illuusive
    illuusive

    Just get a pc problem solved